
A Final Word on Sluts… for now.
September 24, 2012But it’s going to be a long one.. because i want it to be the definitive boogieman article of the decade.
Sometimes you need a really big hammer to pound in a really stubborn nail.
Women really need to come to grips with this. I write these words with the hopes some poor naive girl out there stops dead in her tracks before going down the path Yoda spoke of:
… if you choose the quick and easy path, as Vader (Ms. Dirty) did, you will become an agent of evil (a slut).
A woman who has a really low partner count and is very discerning with whom she grants access to her most intimate area cannot be hated BECAUSE she shows repeated and consistent control over her sexual impulses and only grants it to men who have passed and qualified her rigorous standards without fail. She does not hold two differing standards, holding one type of man to knock off all her checklist requirements before sex, while casting the list aside for another to have a hot and steamy one night stand.
Sluts on the other hand, come in two varieties.
1. The unabashed slut who enjoys her sluttitude and has no qualms about how she lives her life. She will live and die by her choices. You can feel repulsed by it, but hey, as long as she firmly has no aspirations of either getting into any long term commitment with a guy by lying about her number and lets herself get used by any and all cummers that meet the bare minimum threshold of breathing and having a penis.. well then great! Please look to the right pane of my blog under Pages and click on the Contact Me link and send me your time availability. I have red wine and a box of condoms ready.
2. The slut that prances around displaying her obvious availability and carries her reputation as a cock devourer on her sleeve, yet when YOU approach her, she balks, her face contorts hideously and shrieks “EWWWWWW“, turns around and proceeds to start rubbing herself up against the cast of Magic Mike.

Ohhh i’ll fuck him, him and him…
A WOMAN WHO IS BOTH SEXUALLY PROMISCUOUS AND AVAILABLE YET DELIBERATELY CHOOSY ABOUT WHOM SHE SLEEPS WITH IS WHAT MEN HATE.
Ever see a guy who approaches a woman who is sending out obvious signals that she is looking for sex get shot down, only to loudly berate her as a SLUT? He’s shaming her because she’s actually failing to fulfill her portrayed function as a cum gargling slut. She is open and flaunting her desire for sex, yet turning it down.
SLUT!
(and not in the good sense)
If that’s too hard a distinction for you to draw, let me present you with another theoretical version to ponder.
You see 3 women at the counter of a fast food restaurant.
The first lady orders a small salad, hold the dressing and a bottle of water. She’s fit, healthy and lean legs that go ALL the way up and your cock twinges in your pants. This one shows great self control.

I know Burgers taste great.. but I know i’ll get fat if I eat it constantly just to feel good in the moment.
The second lady is riding on a small version of an earth mover, with rolling sides of Crisco threatening to get caught under the wheels. It ‘parks’ itself in front of the counter and orders half the menu. And 2 dozen apple pies for desert. As it leaves track marks in the floor heading towards the table with it’s mountain of food, watching in awe as it inhales it’s meal like a Blue Whale devours an entire colony of plankton in one magnanimous mouth scoop, you look on in disgust but tell yourself meh.. this is how she wants to carry on, so be it. She’s a glutton but an honest one.

Close enough.
The third lady waddles up to the counter. It’s wearing a moomoo because they don’t make rolls of cloth long enough to make clothes that size and it’s breathing heavily under it’s 7 chins. You try and determine whether the slime trail leading behind it is sweaty fat dripping coming off it’s kankles like a rotisserie chicken or something worse you really don’t want to know about. It too orders about 25,000 calories worth of crap, but when the server asks “And what would you like to drink with that?” it let’s out a guttural sound your ears make out to be “Oh i’ll have a diet soda please.”


This is one of those cases where you’re all in or all out.
If you are determined to be a SLUT… you better be ready to fuck me. You’ve shown by the amount of shlong-snot you’ve ingested by enough DIFFERENT men that you aren’t particularly concerned about which armies you decide to drop the draw bridge for to come and penetrate your castle walls and plunder your vastly dwindling amount of treasure and swag. What’s one more into the breach? But now you actually have the audacity to claim you have some rational set of standards i have to hurdle jump?
Sorry. You wanted to fuck like a guy.. you gotta drop your standards like a guy.
You want to lose the double standard? You better be ready to fuck ‘average guys’ like guys want to fuck ‘average girls’.
What?
You getting mad?
No man wants to be with a glutton. Just like the ladies of the fast food world written above, men value a woman who show sexual restraint. We men have always known that it takes no effort whatsoever besides having a pulse for a majority of women to get laid. It’s why we consider it on the same level as winning a medal at the Special Olympics.. for participation! It’s not something to be proud of and shows a completely selfish and uncontrollable side to your nature, not attractive traits. ESPECIALLY to:
- The Natural Alpha who has practiced self control for either moral or religious reasons. Here is a man who actually throws fish out of his boat on a regular basis, screening for just the right fish to catch. If he’s been spending his life exuding control over his natural ability.. why would he EVER consider a women’s promiscuity as a PLUS?
- The famished Beta who has gone months/years without the company of women or sex. He has had very few opportunities, plenty of rejections and an extremely low partner count. Like a starving man sitting at the master’s table waiting for some crumbs to fall he gets to hear about how his Queen gorges on food every night. No dude who has been wandering through the desert want to shackle themselves to the person they find drinking out of a small puddle and offering you some, only to find out that small puddle used to be a lake and she’s been there drinking it down for years.
For a woman who gets angry at a guy for refusing to accept her high number count, is really no different than hearing a really fat person speak about how much they love pounding back dump trucks worth of Haagendaas and city sized portions of deep fried butter sticks wrapped in bacon.. and then being mad you don’t find them attractive because they create their own gravitational force.
Take this vapid slut for example.
If you look at it this way. Everyone wins. I get sex, the guys get sex, and the future girlfriends get more experienced partners. So what’s the big deal with people ridiculing and hating on sluts. We play our part in society. When you think about it we don’t really hurt anyone.
Most sluts know that guys don’t want sluts as girlfriends and wives. We’re not stupid, but we do know that men are men and they like sex. And guess what we like sex too. So it works out fine. And whenever the guy wants a relationship with a girl he likes I’ll back off and sleep with other guys who aren’t in relationships.
GREAT! Let’s track this girl down and send her over to THIS GUY… or any other countless AFC, beta-orbiting, blue balled, chess club, Magic:The Gathering playing guy. Maybe she could put her contact info up on this website and cure a lot of ills.
Who here is willing to bet she balks. Guess not everyone wins after all right?
It’s quite obvious here that this girl only enjoys being a slut with a select few guys. So she’s not out there spreadin the love, she’s only adding to the principle of the top guys getting most of the women already. She’s no fucking charity case, nor is she some finishing school instructor. The guys she’s banging are already experienced. So not only is she driving down the price of sex for the rest of her chaste sisterhood actually looking to land a guy long term, she’s probably helping spread a little bit something more than just her legs…
What’s worse is the rallying cry of cheerleading behind her wonderfully inane comment.
I have a WHOLE 50 cents riding on this that 90% of those commenting retards are guys who are supplicating this woman and validating her remarks in white knight fashion in hopes that one day, a slut will one day come down from the sky and rob them of their virginity. The other 10% are just that… the 10% who always get it and happily cheer the fish on as they sit back in the boat drinking their beer watching the fish jump out of the river into the waiting nets.
I wore my AXE body spray, Sluts <3 AXE.
So let’s just put a bullet into the constant use of ‘Double Standard’ shall we? There really isn’t a double standard. There was always and ever will be only ONE standard. That highly promiscuous people make VERY POOR LIFE PARTNERS.
Back in the day before fire was invented, men were promiscuous and pumped and dumped dear old cavewoman and moved on looking for another one to pump while she went all preggers. Promiscuity by women meant that they suffered the burden of child rearing alone to fend for themselves. It was the numbers approach of evolution, spread a lot of seed so that your chances were good that some survived. This didn’t work very well for a lot of women, who wanted men to stick around and help out, so pair bonding became the next evolutionary step. Women began to enforce greater qualifications and time restraints against men in an effort to have men bond with them so that should they get preggo, they’d stick around to help out. This became the DEFACTO standard. Men in turn demanded that female promiscuity be curtailed to solidify the chances that the woman they pair up with will only have HIS children, and not run off to bag another, bigger, meaner caveman and then pretend it was his so he would provide for it. Promiscuity was curtailed at both ends for the very reason that displays of it showed an extreme proclivity to being a flight risk.
This is a SINGLE STANDARD applied to both sexes.
Only one sex decided to stop handing out red cards to promiscuity as a penalty for being commitment oriented.
I’ll let you take a stab at which one it was…

I’m sorry i broke your brain darlin..
So when a woman says “Why can he fuck around and not be punished or shamed?” Well sister.. that’s a question you should be asking your best friend who’s eyeballing your boyfriend right now. Or you’re friend who’s salivating over that hot young guitar player who does interviews bragging about how many women he’s slammed. Your female cohorts are the ones who avoid enforcing the standard screwing guys who will not make commitment a priority. Only women seem not to care, or grant great leeway in the amount of partners a guy can have and STILL try and lock him down. Your sisters decided to ignore the standard and follow “Don’t ask, don’t tell”.
Men for the most part, never let go of the standard. We want to know the risk we take before committing to you, to know if you’ve squandered your precious sexuality, to know the mother of our children wasn’t passed around like a hot potato. We like hedging our bets that the kids we produce will be ours.
You simply ASSUMED that the next man you were going to meet and try to pin down (after the last alpha kicked you out) was going to be just as promiscuous as the men you fucked in the past. You assumed because YOU were willing to ignore a man’s partner count (the standard) that men shouldn’t / weren’t going to hold it against you.

DEAD WRONG.
The natural alpha has no reason to reward you devaluing you sexual treasure when he showed great self control.
The beta has no reason to reward your gluttonous rampage while he lived in starvation.
Even the alpha cads really have no reason to reward you. They have others to choose from as well and they already know what an easy slut you are to manipulate.
Realistically, alpha cads should be subject to this same dilemma. They are really bad bets for long term commitment. They’re prone to cheating on you, making you feel miserable and simply controlling your life. Maybe they’ll even ask you to do a threesome or an open relationship if they really want to let themselves get tied down.
Yet the women still go there.. looking to lock them down. That’s not on me. That’s on you.

I would rather plunk my life savings into this.
You make a poor investment. Either i have to continually game you to keep you, or as soon as the lovey dovey feelings and euphoria of new love wane, you’re promiscuous nature will drive you to seek another ‘hit’ to recapture that feeling.
[edit: just found this link at Temple of Mut about Oxytocin – it’s BANG on]
Men who value woman’s sexuality rely on knowing whether a woman cherished her sexual intimacy or squandered it. As i said in my last post, it’s not the amount of times you have sex, it’s how many partners you end up pleasuring that makes you a bad slut. Your sex is the equivalent of our commitment. You giving it up to a variety of partners, unworthy partners, partners who were not fit for long term partnerships.. is the equivalent of a man giving up his commitment, time, resources and emotional support to women who do nothing to earn it. Sluts are the equivalent of the beta-shmuck doormat you ladies despise so much. They’re giving it away so easily, it has no value to you to lock down.
Do men want a slut in the bedroom? Yes. A lady on the street but a freak in the bed? Yes. That’s what makes you a ‘good’ slut. Yes there is such a thing as being a GOOD slut. When you slut it up with the guy you’re attached to for the long haul. Becoming good at sex does not require a vast amount of partners. It requires getting to know the one you’re with intimately to know their deepest desires. You don’t need to have the train run on you by the college football team to consider yourself being good in bed.

Your number has no basis as to whether you will be good at sex to a man. It might even make you worse predisposing you to doing things he might take no enjoyment in and performing for him like a trained monkey following the script of a porno film rather than attempting real intimacy.
But when it comes to lock down commitment relationships… we want to know your real number!
And this is where we come to the meat of it…
You had the entire basketball team treat you like a cum cookie in the locker room when you were drunk as a skunk.
Are you REALLY proud?
You have slept with or blown a new man every two weeks for the last year, either being used and pumped and dumped, or pumping and dumping yourself, giving your sex to a man you never had any feelings for whatsoever.
Are you REALLY proud?
Ever notice how sex pozzies love to tell other women to be proud of slutting it up? Cheering them and rooting them on. Ever notice how defiant they are when talking to people they have no intention of sleeping with, or through the anonymity of the internet.. will loudly proclaim that her number shouldn’t matter and will gladly tell how many different men’s cocks she’s drained?
Ever notice when that moment when all of a sudden they go silent?
They meet the man they REALLY have feelings for…
proud
[proud] Show IPA adjective, proud·er,proud·est, adverb
adjective1.feeling pleasure or satisfaction over something regarded ashighly honorable or creditable to oneself (often followed byof, an infinitive, or a clause).2.having, proceeding from, or showing a high opinion of one’sown dignity, importance, or superiority.3.having or showing self-respect or self-esteem.4.highly gratifying to the feelings or self-esteem: It was aproud day for him when his son entered college.5.highly honorable or creditable: a proud achievement.
Pride goeth before a fall

There was a great comment on someone else’s blog that i cannot find at the moment.. but it went along the lines of:
When a woman has a high partner count and has to tell it honestly to a man she REALLY likes, she holds off or fudges not because she’s afraid he won’t be able to take it, worried about a double standard or any other such nonsense. She is finally made aware of what her sexuality means and truly IS ashamed of her past actions and is trying to rewrite the past rather than acknowledge it.
When people are proud of things they accomplish, they WANT to tell the whole world, especially to those that matter most. If you cannot sit across from someone and tell them the truth about something you’ve done, you are obviously NOT proud of what you’ve done. Proud people can’t shut up when speaking highly of their achievements and accomplishments.

This is not the action of a ‘proud’ woman.
I can’t imagine Jonas Salk sitting at a table surrounded by his peers meekly saying “Oh yeah.. i only had a tiny role in creating that vaccine, i only handled a few petrie dishes.”
No, Jonas Salk jumped up onto that fucking table, ripped his shirt off and yelled “I MUTHAFUCKIN KILLED POLIO BITCHES!” (btw.. Jonas Salk.. a man. Just sayin)

I went BEASTMODE on Polio!
So i propose a challenge to all Sex Poz femcunts everywhere.. and their religious followers of SLUTWALKING zombies.
IF you truly believe that going around pounding back dick like it’s going out of style is your version of reaching the peak of Mt. Everest, then let’s put your moxy to the test and your money where your mouth is.
I will be starting up a new business venture, a line of stylish outerwear that you can proudly wear to tell the whole world and all the men you’re courting just how much you value your sexuality as a woman. Yes ladies, you can now order direct from my online store RedPill Apparel fashion statements that truly project how you feel about your wanton gluttony and abundance of cock-handling abilities.
Throw out those useless ‘Throw rocks at boys’ shirts. Burn those ‘Grrrrl Power’ rags. Fuck the lame ‘Fish on a bicycle’ crap.
Hell I won’t even charge you anything for the shirts… all you gotta do is come to my place and blow me. Beats paying for shipping and handling right? Just email me and i’ll send you a google map link to my chateau of love.
But since these shirts are custom made to order, i need to know your exact number prior to manufacturing. So you’ll have to enumerate every encounter and hookup you’ve had on the order form. This means i need to know any time one of the following happened, regardless of which country you were in or what state of inebriation you were in. If you can’t recall, err on the side of caution and count it:
- every time you have touched, gripped, handled or stroked a penis
- every time you’ve kissed, licked or fully allowed a penis into your mouth
- every time you have let a man touch, stroke or insert a digit into your vagina
- every time a mans penis has made contact with your vagina
- every time a mans penis has penetrated your vagina
- every time a mans penis has penetrated your rectum
- every time a mans penis has ejaculated due to a direct action you took to spur it on
[I am tempted in this digital day and age to say any phone sex, sexting, skype or webcamming sex due to obvious sexual nature but without physical contact i’m not ready to include it. I’ll let the married women determine if it should be considered sex if their husbands where caught doing this]
Once we have that number firmly established and entered into the order form you can choose from one of these fine upper-wear items fit for any occasion.
Well ladies. Have at it. The store is open.
For the lady on the go, fitness and workout shirt.
For the power grrrl in the office and corporate environment.
Also for those who want to feel more feminine, we also carry it in pink.
(this option is unavailable for feminists)
And don’t forget to enter in the date of your last medical checkup and blood-work results for STI/STD infections too!
(shirts available in sm/m/l only. XL, XLL, Cratermaker sizes unavailable due to weak sales and honestly.. i wouldn’t believe ya)
See, i’m doing my part to let you show your pride. I wan’t you to be able to proudly display your treatment of your innate sexual value being monstrously devalued. I REALLY want you to be wearing this shirt with your number proudly emblazend on it when you meet the man you really want to settle down with and offer him your most treasured asset having been shared with a multitude of men. We wouldn’t want you to start your next relationship, one of HONOR, COMMITMENT and TRUST to start off based on a LIE now would we?
But you never wanted that right? You just wanted to be a slut for life no?
I’m more than happy to ENABLE you to enjoy your life’s choices.
And if you still insist on embracing slutitude..
This guy won’t mind, or this guy, or this guy, or this guy, or this guy, or this guy, or this guy, or this guy or myself either. And don’t forget to teach your daughters your wanton ways either.. because we will want to enjoy them too. Just order my shirt, put it on the young one, send her out the door and let nature take it’s course. Please keep feeding us more.

Your daughters future vocation.
After all, nothing wrong with being a slut right? Of course not, we don’t mind fucking you. And you don’t seem to mind fucking us.
But we’re not the one’s trying to lock you down for commitment.
We’re not the ones asking to get married to you.
No.
That’s you ladies.
Asking us to man up and lock in.
You’re the ones who don’t care to assess the penalty for promiscuity.
We never stopped…
You know.. i just had way too much fun with this :)











Executive summary:
1. A woman does not become a slut by accident. It is her choice. She chooses to take lotsa strange cocka.
2. Two kinds of sluts:
a. Proud no-search-for-commitment slut
b. I-want-commitment-but-only-with-hot-alpha slut
Both want the sex and the attention but don’t want to be judged for their actions. Either way, you’d better be DTF, because M3 will have what you gave the last 10 men, thank you very much.
3. The more partners you’ve had, the worse of a slut you are.
4. A woman does not need to have a lot of partners to develop sexual skill. She needs only to learn how to please one man — her long term partner. We used to call them “husbands”.
5. A “good slut” is one who learned to get her freak on with her long term partner and no one else.
6. If you really are proud of your sluthood, then:
a. Let that slut flag fly. Put your money where your mouth is and be DTF every Tom, Dick and Harry that propositions you.
b. Tell us the true number, which is calculated thus: every time any part of your body touched a penis and/or every time that penis ejaculated because of your actions, that man attached to that penis counts as one of your “number”.
c. Get with M3 and be DTF on arrival.
Sheer brilliance.
Upon further reflection, your shirt is not sexpoz enough.
You’re limiting these poor women by printing the number.
Add this:
http://www.thisnext.com/item/34A341F9/LilyPad-E-Sewing-Kit-create
That way our lovable ladies can, with the press of a button, empower themselves to the digits of their desire.
“Now serving number 48!”
You go, grrrllllzzzz!
I am literally in stitches.. pardon the pun.
That would be for the premium shirts. The value brand would just come with blank slots and they can sew their own numbers in..
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/269214397/Single_number_Chenille_Patches.html
.. provided the little princess’s actually know how to sow?
Your post was making me giggle, but when I got to the t-shirts, I lost it… Hilarious. Love the fast food metaphor.
100% right, if you develop your sexual adventurousness with your long term partner, nothing wrong with “slutting it up” with him. Save that shit. My husband said there was a second date BECAUSE I didn’t give it up like the usual ho bags.
Holy linkage batman.
Gonna take awhile to get through it all. A good solid post though. Thanks for including me on it
Thanks for the great post M3.
Pretty much nails it I think. It was a humorous read and you made a series of excellent and valuable points. Thanks again.
Oh my, this post was hilarious, though I feel a little bit like I need to go to confession after looking at some of those pictures (and I’m not even Catholic)!
That said – I quibbled with CL over using the word “slut” to refer to a woman who is freaky in bed with her own husband, but it seems like no one else has a problem with using the word that way, so ok.
Excellent post
I believe it was Athol Kay who said that a man’s greatest sexual fantasy is simply that the woman be “into it” with him.
To that I would add that a man’s worst sexual nightmare is that his woman is or has been “into it” with just about everyone else, too.
That is to say, there is a difference between his personal slut, and everyone’s slut.
You have the best images!! My god. I think my eyes hurt now though.
Women choose who they’re going to sleep with. If a slut doesn’t want to sleep with you because she doesn’t like you, then deal with it and move on. Don’t you hate sluts anyway? I don’t understand why it upsets you so much other than the fact that it reminds you of your low SMV. (“Wow, not even sluts will sleep with me!”) You aren’t entitled to vagina and women aren’t entitled to spread their legs for you. Your initial argument makes you sound like a borderline rapist. If you don’t like sluts, don’t marry/date them. End of.
And you just compared sex…an act between two people…to food….I think there’s something wrong with your metaphor.
Men and women make a variety of choices in sex. Some people choose to wait until marriage. Some only have sex within monogamous relationships. Some have fbuddies, others have one night stands, and some have relationship sex and nonrelationship sex! Telling someone to sleep with you because they slept with someone else is just weird. Work on your game because if even the town bike doesn’t want you there’s something really wrong.
I think you may have missed the point Stormy.
Sorry Stormy.. but you did miss the point. Re-read it and get back to me. If you’re still having difficulty, have one of your male friends explain it to you. Don’t look at this through an emotional lens.
“Your initial argument makes you sound like a borderline rapist.”
I have not now nor ever condoned rape. It had nothing to do with rape and everything to do with calling a spade a spade. You know it. I know. Everyone else knew it. Don’t go there.
Final hint about what the article was about…
“You aren’t entitled to vagina and women aren’t entitled to spread their legs for you.”
And SLUTS aren’t entitled to ______ and men aren’t entitled to _____ their ______ for SLUTS.
It’s a two way street – I wouldn’t touch a guy with a high number or who thought of himself as a player, with a bargepole. I find it distasteful. So I can well understand why a man wouldn’t want to be one of many :-) I would also be extremely wary of a guy if he had past problems with fidelity.
Thanks for chiming in.
I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said. You hand out the penalty and should be commended.
One thing is for certain. It’s not men writing into Dear Abby or AskMen complaining about women not accepting their partner counts for long tern fitness. Alpha cads know what they’re doing and accept the repercussions.
Wild slutty women who bought into feminisms trope are incapable of dealing with the consequences of their choices.
You’re welcome Leap. Your post had great relevance to the sex/commitment dynamic at play.
A loose woman is as wanted by men for long term as much as overly supplicating, giving needy doormat men who don’t guard their emotional commitment are wanted by women.
“It’s not men writing into Dear Abby or AskMen complaining about women not accepting their partner counts for long tern fitness. Alpha cads know what they’re doing and accept the repercussions.
Wild slutty women who bought into feminisms trope are incapable of dealing with the consequences of their choices.”
THIS. THIS RIGHT HERE.
Women want to be slutty and act slutty. They want to fuck hot alpha studs until they are ready to get married. Then they want the hot alpha stud to suddenly see her awesomely awesome awesomeness and drop to one knee.
In other words, she wants to be a slut, but then she does not want to be judged for it and does not want to accept its consequences. All the fun, none of the mess.
I had my boyfriend read it and he said you sounded desperate.
To quote GBFM
“lzozozlzlzlzlzlzolzolzoz”
Ok stormy. You can feel however you want to feel about it. And congrats on the boyfriend. Hope everything goes well. Not sure what your end game is, if your boyfriend is a short term fling, an LTR or more. But if it does lead to marriage..
..i hope he doesn’t propose to you with a ring he bought for another woman. And then used that same ring to propose to 15 other women before he finally decided to give it to you.
All the best.
LOL the ring proposal scenario makes no sense. haha.
You need to find better analogies.
And it’s not really how I feel if that’s how multiple people who aren’t poisoned by the sphere interpret your writing lol. Women think you come off as desperate, that’s why you’re struggling in the SMP. I have some male friends that were offering to give you advice.
If the ring analogy makes no sense then all further conversation will not yield any results. But i’m a glutton for punishment so i’ll take one more swing at it.
As i stated, it’s not men who are writing and getting pissed off that women aren’t accepting that they were players or manwhores and are now not looked upon with disgust and unfit for long term commitment. You fail to understand i wrote this thinking of my friends 5 year old daughter, whom i want to grow up cherishing her value and self worth and not piss it away on a string of dudes that don’t mean anything to her or vise versa. I don’t want her to be next “Stacy Jones, TX”
http://ca.askmen.com/dating/curtsmith/42_dating_advice.html
As to the desperate/struggling SMP comment. Mmmhmmm. One wonders if i’m inadvertently feeding a troll, because it sounds an awful lot like ‘creeepy/you can’t get laid’ Marcotte stuff. Perhaps that is the cause of women slutting around, because they view men who can’t get laid with such disdain, they project that men feel the same way about them so they go off pounding back random strangers, ONS’s and multiple fwb’s before they finally meet ‘the one’ who should be delighted he isn’t with some loser virgin girl. I dunno. Just extrapolating.
My SMP rank as it currently stands borders on sheer awesome, and is currently irrelevant. I don’t base my manhood or masculinity on my ability to operate within the SMP, or banging sluts, or finding someone to marry and fulfilling society’s role as a consumer driven beast of burden. As a MGTOW, i don’t give one fuck about how women or the feminine imperative view me. The only people who think i come off desperate are the ones with limited reading comprehension or are stung by a truth they’re unwilling to grasp. Women don’t think such nonsense. Only wimminz do.
You and your friends have apparently dismissed the whole article and grabbed onto one tiny little point about how i differentiate between a honest slut vs. a picky slut. I cede no power to the pussy and am not desperate to bang either type. In fact, i actively screen to avoid them as i don’t want to give a decent girl any infections i might pick up from a slut. The point was strictly about how the picky slut’s pickiness will not play a positive factor down the road when she is rejected outright for commitment for having been a slut. Neither are marriage worthy, but at least the honest slut was honest with herself and her future relationship options. The picky one was just as deluded as the heifer who thought ordering a diet cola made her superior and more health conscious than her equally ravenous sister.
But if food and ring analogies fail you, lets try another…
Honest Slut = a chain smoker who smokes indian reserve smokes
Picky Slut = a chain smoker who smokes premium brand, light cigarettes, and chastises people who smoke garbage smokes. she is proud of her sophisticated lifestyle and appearance.
Both end up with black lungs.
Only the premium smoker is pissed that the guy wants to live with a healthy non-smoker.
Only the premium smoker would lie about her smoking and swear she’s only tried one or two, but never inhaled. LOL
And years later, in the doctors office.. it comes out in the x-rays that she smoked for years and the guy is devastated.
Don’t smoke.
I can keep coming up with analogies till the cows come home. Everyone else gets it.. so the fault lies not with the way i’m describing it.
I don’t know what your dog in this is. You’ve taken this quite personally. Again i must wonder of solipsism is in play? I don’t know your number so i can’t say. Perhaps because you misinterpreted the slut analogies into a rape scenario, you reacted on a visceral emotional level. It wasn’t my intent so i couldn’t put in a trigger warning for you. Or perhaps you’ve slowly left the manosphere for greener pastures on Jizzabel, SacklessBoobs or LesserManProject. Perhaps this isn’t the venue for you. Perhaps i should dig up the contact info for the Buffalo NY chapter of SLUTWALK for you to contact? Perhaps you can ‘like’ their facebook page?
In any case, you’ve contacted me in the past, so please feel free to send me whatever ‘advise’ you, your boyfriend, female and male friends wish to share with me via email or contact page where i will thoroughly examine it. If you make any salient or valid points worth addressing that will make me think and introspect on the error of my views, then great. I don’t mind at all. If it’s just a bunch of gibbering nonsense.. i’ll dissect it in a future post.
Cheers
They have to want to be different, till then the best operating procedure for men is from the good Captain Jack Sparrow “Take what you can, give nothing back”.
Enough men start fighting a scorched earth campaign and people might start noticing, and if not those men are at less legal risks at least.
I didn’t take the article personally so I don’t really see why you need to get personal. If you want to get personal I would be more than happy to take it up in e-mail.
I understand why smokers are annoying. I also understand why fat people who think they’re doing themselves a service by ordering a jumbo diet coke are annoying. What I don’t understand are why you take such offense to sluts who slut around with some men but not others annoying. Hey, if some women want to pantydrop for celebs but not regular dudes, let them. The one who sounds angry is you.
I’m going to take a portion of your article that my friends and I thought was crazy, and explain why the analogy DOESN’T work from a Darwinian perspective:
“This is one of those cases where you’re all in or all out.
If you are determined to be a SLUT… you better be ready to fuck me. You’ve shown by the amount of shlong-snot you’ve ingested by enough DIFFERENT men that you aren’t particularly concerned about which armies you decide to drop the draw bridge for to come and penetrate your castle walls and plunder your vastly dwindling amount of treasure and swag. What’s one more into the breach? But now you actually have the audacity to claim you have some rational set of standards i have to hurdle jump?
Sorry. You wanted to fuck like a guy.. you gotta drop your standards like a guy.”
They’re not “fucking like a guy.” They’re having sex the way they want to have sex. You can’t really tell someone what not or what to do. Particularly women who are doing the selecting and determine what genes get passed on to the next generation.
I’m not trying to be offensive at this point (though you seem to be, for some reason). I’m just saying that this is what you’re coming across as to young people in the SMP. Women are the ones who dictate what standards they’re going to have. Women are the ones that do the selecting of which genes get passed on. You’re never going to see a woman “truly fuck like a man.” Even women that slut around “like men” aren’t going to slut around the way men do, because they’re still going to try to get the best possible men they can so they can ensure the propagation of the best DNA. Most men are just grateful to be chosen.
So that’s why, from a biological perspective, your argument doesn’t make sense.
Furthermore, your argument also places you in the perspective of a man that “picky sluts” didn’t choose. That’s actually what it sounded like to my friends and I. And that’s why you came off as desperate or lower in the SMP.
You’re a bit afraid this is true, because you responded to me in a ridiculous tl;dr post ( I did read most of it, but I skimmed through the personal attacks because they’re kind of a waste of time. If I missed anything of substance between the personal jabs please repost them sans offenses. Thanks).
Also, while I respect the fact that you are MGTOW, you also can’t escape Darwin. One of the main reasons I don’t understand MGTOW, from an evolutionary perspective, is that you are literally, biologically, shooting yourself in the foot. Or the nuts, rather. You don’t want to be a loser in the SMP…so you forfeit…which makes you a loser anyway because you don’t get to pass on your genes. It’s kind of funny, but at the same time, I respect it because at least it proves that humans can transcend their primal urges. But…you still seem awfully angry at sluts for someone who’s not in the SMP at all.
“You can’t really tell someone what not or what to do. Particularly women who are doing the selecting and determine what genes get passed on to the next generation.”
Stormy. You did honestly miss the whole point. The point is that, both men and women, compare themselves to each other in the SMP. If a woman will give it up for a ONS to some guy a man determines is of low quality, then asks us to pay a higher price of commitment to sleep with her than the one night stand does, we get pissed. If she decides that nothing we have to offer her is as good as what someone we think is a loser had to offer her, we get pissed. It is actively saying that we are of lower quality than the lowest man you’ve slept with.
The female equivalent would be if you were on a girls night out, and some hot guy approached your group but hasn’t indicated which of you he has the hots for. You’re all dolled up, heels, skirt, make-up; you name it, you’re in your best. You’re throwing plenty of interest his way.
Then he throws his all in with your friend who has her hair back in a ponytail, wore jeans, sneakers, and a hoodie because she just got off work. A normal woman’s immediate reaction is “What does he see in -HER-!?” which is an instant comparison that has a subtext that you see yourself as of higher quality and are offended because his choice implies you have a lower quality when you had already shown you’d be more than happy to ‘get involved’ on some level with him.
And the engagement ring analogy?
Would you want to commit to a man who put the ring he proposed to you with on 15 different women?
Well, we wouldn’t want to commit to a woman who’s vagina has been on 15 different dicks.
How is that a hard analogy to grasp?
Hey, it’s unlikely for a man to put the ring on 15 women’s fingers, but if he’s the man I love and meant to be with…then why not?
Now I wouldn’t want to be involved with a man who’s had 15+ partners, and I’m not, so that’s great.
And now I understand the point. Thanks for pointing it out without the ad hominem. I appreciate that. I couldn’t really discern it from m3’s angry ranting and rambling, and neither could my boyfriend or any of my friends. In fact, as I said before, he just came off as angry and desperate to all of us. :/
“I couldn’t really discern it from m3′s angry ranting and rambling, and neither could my boyfriend or any of my friends. In fact, as I said before, he just came off as angry and desperate to all of us. :/”
Just keep in mind that most men that have any options do, in fact, mind how many men a woman has been with. The female reverse of this is that they generally mind how many women a man is committed to – usually in the form of female friends that get the benefits of a relationship without sexing up the man – the “lets just be freidns” zone. Kills attraction for the woman that put him there and usually will dry up any well of attraction for women that observe the zone as well.
Also, remember that most men, even if they come off as just angry, usually have a reason for that anger. M3 might be a MGTOW, but he’s a man that went through divorce, upped his physical value, upped his status value, and still has run into the issues he writes about with women. While I agree with you in part that anger can be unhealthy, I know M3 has been working on himself and is using that anger to burn away the bullshit and lies in his life in a purifying fire. That’s the best use of anger for a man – self improvement. Women (and most men) don’t understand that and usually are afraid of it for obvious reasons of not being able to physicallyl stop a very angry very strong man. M3 just has to be careful not to get addicted to the anger and burn awayimportant parts of himself.
But until that point, he will improve for his anger. It will drive him to change himself, then address his issues, and then change his corner of the world to create a kingdom for himself.
“I couldn’t really discern it from m3′s angry ranting and rambling, and neither could my boyfriend or any of my friends. In fact, as I said before, he just came off as angry and desperate to all of us. :/”
Just keep in mind that most men that have any options do, in fact, mind how many men a woman has been with. It won’t kill attraction, but instead kills long term desire for commitment The female reverse of this is that they generally mind how many women a man is committed to – usually in the form of female friends that get the benefits of a relationship without sexing up the man – the “lets just be freidns” zone. Kills attraction for the woman that put him there and usually will dry up any well of attraction for women that observe the zone as well. Their attraction dies, but their ability to be in a long term committed friendship will stay strong.
Also, remember that most men, even if they come off as just angry, usually have a reason for that anger. M3 might be a MGTOW, but he’s a man that went through divorce, upped his physical value, upped his status value, and still has run into the issues he writes about with women. While I agree with you in part that anger can be unhealthy, I know M3 has been working on himself and is using that anger to burn away the bullshit and lies in his life in a purifying fire. That’s the best use of anger for a man – self improvement. Women (and most men) don’t understand that and usually are afraid of it for obvious reasons of not being able to physically stop a very angry very strong man. M3 just has to be careful not to get addicted to the anger and burn awayimportant parts of himself.
But until that point, he will improve for his anger. It will drive him to change himself, then address his issues, and then change his corner of the world to create a kingdom for himself.
I already know about the partnercount thing, my mother taught me that since before I even started menstruating.
I’m just of the opinion that if someone’s sexual choices bother you, ignore them. I mean, unless it’s a close friend that you can talk to, just move on with your life and don’t let it bother you. Men and women can scream until the cows come home about sluts and commitment and were are the REAL women and where are the REAL feminine women, and at the end it just sounds like a bunch of stupid drivel.
There are a lot of people who are ignored and under appreciated in this mess. And they’re not the ones who are bitching.
I’m out.
1. I don’t care to pass my genes on. If that makes me a loser so be it. I’m a happy loser in that respect. Cappy cap went into my head and stole my thoughts word for word.
http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.ca/2012/09/youre-evil-and-selfish-for-not-having.html
2. If i came off angry, it’s only because you decided to lay down the desperate angle against me while i was writing off an amusing parable of hypocrisy, not a real life event. You failed to make that distinction. You further seemed to be arguing for a sluts right to slut around as if i took umbrage with that. I DIDN’T. The whole premise was that sluts don’t want their number held against them when they want to settle down. THAT WAS THE POINT. I could give fuck all if sluts want to have a stadium full of men run a train on them or just have 1 sophisticated new guy every month. Yes indeed women get to choose in the end. It’s called rape otherwise. But a woman’s finickiness regarding who she sleeps with will be perceived much more differently by men, and if it’s apparent she gives it up to assholes who don’t value her, then she’s a picky slut. I’m so glad you were able to understand Leap’s rationale of the situation. Apparently “But now you actually have the audacity to claim you have some rational set of standards i have to hurdle jump?” wasn’t good enough. I’ll try and bring my articulation matrix more to bear on future articles.
3. So let’s get this straight. You come in completely missing the point of the article, double down in defense of slutting, come dangerously close to accusing me of something akin to promoting rape, pretty much call me a creep (i would be tempted to return the favor ala Private Man’s new language committee), attribute me to a low rank in the SMP and that i must reek of desperation because you and you ilk’s inability to grasp the context that Leap and everyone else did get. At what point wasn i NOT supposed to take it personally. I had to double check to make sure it wasn’t Amanda Marcotte coming in to ‘throw down’.
4. I find it rather disingenuous that you claim analogy after analogy fail you and your friends, yet Leap serves it up to on a silver platter and all of a sudden WHOA well when you say it that way… i mean seriously, without any hint of snark or being an asshole here… does everyone have to do all the thinking for you and your friends? The reason why you didn’t understand any of the analogies is because you were missing the entire point of the article. The smoker analogy wasn’t about annoying smokers, it’s that they both equally devalued their lungs, only one thought she had standards. The ring analogy Leap explained to you. The fat people analogy was about appearance devaluation vs. rationalization. The reason you didn’t get them, the reason you think im all mad about nothing.. is because you didn’t care about the finale of the article. If im angry about anything, it’s not that they slut around, it’s that they don’t want to face the consequences of their actions. Whether they pig out honestly, or just pork out during the week, they get all buthurt that MEN WON’T MAN UP AND DISCOUNT THEIR NUMBER. To all the strange women of the world that are not immediate family and friends.. go knock yourselves the fuck out, slut a little, slut a lot, but as for me it matters not. I’ll be reading more about them crying in Cosmo. What i don’t want to see is my friends daughters buy into feminist bullshit that she won’t face a visceral reaction from guys later if she uses her body like a mobile condom for all types of guys, or just handsome celebs. In the end the number is just that.. a number of faceless dicks to ponder having been inside her.
5. The only thing i’m afraid of in this SMP is either not being able to find a ‘good girl’ (unicorn) or that i am somehow stupid enough to get married again. Everything else is moot. I can’t be a loser in the SMP if it’s irrelevant to me. I could EASILY adopt my brother’s persona, lay down the dark game on cheap girls and douchebag them out of their panties six ways from sunday. Yet somehow i think my soul would disappear and i’d go postal and kill people too. No, i can’t measure my success in the SMP by how much i get laid. I measure it by realizing my boat is floating in the middle of the Great Pacific Garbage patch, and i really don’t feel like taking bits of crap off my hook with every reel of my rod.
To close:
-I have no problem with honest sluts. I have more respect for them than picky sluts. Neither of them value their innate sexual value, but honest ones don’t lie to themselves or the men they see.. unlike the picky ones who loose pride in their number.
-I have transcended my biological program. One can escape Darwinism just fine. Logic allows that on a planet of 7 billion people, i can opt out and enjoy my time. The Captain laid out everything i’ve felt since i left the married game. No woman has come around who has shown qualities of being a good mother, let alone a good wife. Christ, when i was married and we had a dog, i got up at night to piss her, even tho i had to get up for work while she was on emp.insurance. Why in the name of fuck would i want a real kid? No, the fact im smart enough to know it’s better i not have one shows i care more about kids than most parents nowadays. The day reversible vasectomy comes around, i’m first in line.
-I make no apologies or retractions for the article. If you can show where i misunderstood any of your ‘assertions’ in point #3.. i’ll apologize for them.
Thanks Leap. I’m glad you were able to discern from my angry ranting and rambling and relay it to those that couldn’t. Presumably my entire readership?
I am in your debt for having these powers of unraveling. Your translation service is most welcome.
I don’t even know why i write sometimes. None of my readers can comprehend me..
..without you.
The force is strong this one.
Maybe i should have you ghost write my next post?
Haha. Oh god. Those could be some fun shenanigans.
Haha. Oh god. Me ghost writing as a translator…..
hose could be some fun shenanigans.
M3 is a desperate sad rapist douche
Wow. My first bonafide cunt reply.
Congratulations cunt. Your stupidity is in full display. Thank you.
Any more counts lying in the woodwork?
Menrbiggersluts,
M3 is respectful and unusually insightful for a man. A woman could learn a lot about men from reading his blog. And from what I’m seeing in the women’s online dating profiles, they desperately need a clue about men. Women don’t know jack shit about men.
Instead of killing the messenger, maybe you should pay attention. But, you probably don’t need any help with men. Men just naturally love you.They are falling all over themselves asking for your hand in marriage, right?
M3 is not an advocate of rape. I don’t even know where you are getting that from. It’s appalling you would even say that, but I notice you are doing so anonymously.
To a feminist everything looks like rape. Including this comment, probably.
You have some sound points and I appreciate much of the humor in your post.. however to be contrary I would point out…
Rejecting men who are unattractive is not a double standard. If a beta male wants to get laid he may have to set aside all of his standards. On the other and an alpha male never sets aside all of his standards but goes for the best available. Because of the high availability of men who are dtf, women are often in a position to choose. You are free to hate them for not choosing you, but that doesn’t make it a double standard to choose the best they can get. Its more like basic primal biology. To put it harshly you sound like a girl whining that the alphamale/player/slut didn’t choose her.
I grant you that it does sound that way.
Definitely a beta male needs to understand where he falls in sex rank according to the woman he wants is important. This is that whole ‘punching above your weight’ thing.
Having said that, i have seen many men of great biological fitness in terms of looks, strength and health get shot down simply because they failed to act like a good circus monkey, while others who are obvious cads, not father material, broke/jobless/penniless men score. They would make horrible mates and genetically poor choices for offspring.
Women’s attraction triggers are not on par to what they used to be. Women view too many men as unattractive today because so much of what men used to do personally for women are now done by technology or government, freeing women to simply choose for superficiality rather than realism.
And lets not forget its that the shackles of social mores meant to keep society in order have been broken in order to allow this to happen. If you say it’s simply biology that allows women to act on a basic primal urge to choose the best they can get, then you’d obviously have no issue saying men should dump their aging wives and shack up with freshly turned 18 year olds because… well it’s not a double standard to choose the best tehy can get right?
I understand hypergamy and it’s role. I also understand it was kept in check for a reason. And it being allowed to run amok is the reason why so many in the sphere.. even the ‘players’ who are feasting on it, recognize why we all keep saying ‘Enjoy the Decline’.
“M3 … is unusually insightful for a man.”
Speaking of *****.
[M3: i understood the point you’re driving at.. but you’re tone just sucked. please try again with a more civil tone towards a good friend of mine if you have want to discuss it.]
Choosing for superficiality rather than realism – I think you’ve really hit something there that makes me understand your post a bit better. I’m a woman and some of your post is hard for me to really understand from your perspective. I thought of when I was young and a boy I had had a crush on since we were little grew up to be very good looking and popular. We stayed friends but he started drinking and partying and being with many different slutty girls. Eventually something changed and he finally became interested in me, but it was too late. I didn’t want to date him anymore. So I think to myself – there is no double standard, right? I don’t know. But I felt like if he was ever going to be interested in me, he shouldn’t have been acting the way he was beforehand. And what would it have made me in his eyes and the eyes of others (and in my own eyes, too)? Just another one of those sluts? I eventually married a man who I could see was a hard worker and very kind and loyal to friends and family. I also knew that he was popular with many girls, including stupid and slutty ones, and that he stayed away from them. When I saw those things I knew I should marry him. We didn’t have to hide or forgive anything in each other because we had both been living the kind of lives the other valued.
“The slut that prances around displaying her obvious availability and carries her reputation as a cock devourer on her sleeve, yet when YOU approach her, she balks, her face contorts hideously and shrieks “EWWWWWW“, turns around and proceeds to start rubbing herself up against the cast of Magic Mike.”
“A WOMAN WHO IS BOTH SEXUALLY PROMISCUOUS AND AVAILABLE YET DELIBERATELY CHOOSY ABOUT WHOM SHE SLEEPS WITH IS WHAT MEN HATE.”
They can “hate” all they want but its not going to change the fact that people have freedom of choice. We can sleep with whomever we want to, provided that person wants to sleep with us as well.
It called the “Free Sexual Market” or “Sexual Capitalism” as opposed to “Sexual Marxism” wherein “from each according her ability, to each according his need.”
In a Free Market people voluntarily engage in mutually beneficial exchange with each other .
Nobody is obliged to engage in exchange with anyone.
If you find yourself not meeting the standards of women you are attracted to, you are free to increase your capital or lower your own standards.
You are not free to impose your will on anyone or force any woman to exchange with you.
“You are not free to impose your will on anyone or force any woman to exchange with you.”
I fail to see where i wrote anywhere in my post where i implied imposing against will or attaining by use of force was verbalized. In my old age i may be going blind so if you could so kindly point me to the passage where i wrote such abomination so that i may excise the offending passage.
“If you find yourself not meeting the standards of women you are attracted to, you are free to increase your capital or lower your own standards.”
Everyone understands the Free Sex Market and SMP. No one is saying what we need is Sexual Marxism. Everyone is free to choose. However, you missed the point of the entire post. It’s about the double standard, why it will never die, why you can’t force men to accept it and why you can’t brow beat men who have LOST big in the market to accept women who WON in the market when the tables turn.
And let’s not forget a majority of women are enjoying the rigging of the artificial system that allows for female independence to shoot higher and punch well above their weight, station, SMV to screw with guys hotter than they deserve simply because they’ve been freed from the hazards of nature to mate solely with a lesser provider. Women get to bypass the increase capital/decrease standards throughout their early years, then wail like banshees when the same treatment you say men should subscribe to are ascribed to 35+ yr old spinsters past their best before date thinking they’re fabulous and deserve nothing but the best. Where is the bleating of people like you telling those women that they should drop their standards LARGE… ?
But back to the main post and topic at hand.
Sluts who don’t want their number to count are like rich folk who spend their whole life ignoring and shitting on the downtrodden, and then when they piss away all their riches on snorting coke and burning rolls of banknotes in the fire because it’s chic, wake up one day bankrupt and then expect those same people they shit on to suddenly care and accept them for who they are instead of what they did with the advantages they had in life to secure love and happiness for the long term.
Go back and read it again. If you still fail to grasp it, that’s your disability.
“Women get to bypass the increase capital/decrease standards throughout their early years, then WAIL LIKE BANSHEES when the same treatment you say men should subscribe to are ascribed to 35+ yr old spinsters past their best before date thinking they’re fabulous and deserve nothing but the best.”
They are free to wail. And men are free to ignore their wails.
“Where is the bleating of people like you telling those women that they should drop their standards LARGE… ?”
See above.
One thing though. I’ve actually never met a good looking “slut” who ever had trouble finding a man to settle down with long term.
“They are free to wail. And men are free to ignore their wails. – See above.”
Agreed.
“One thing though. I’ve actually never met a good looking “slut” who ever had trouble finding a man to settle down with long term.”
Well, i’ve seen this too. Generally it will go one of two ways. Either a slut settles with a cad, and their numbers cancel each other out (no feeling of having missed out, inadequacy or SMV mismatch) in which case both are in harmony and can stay or leave without too much hysteria. OR a woman with a really high number HIDES this from the man, and i see this a LOT more often. Women who were proud of their sexual conquests (shooting fish in a barrel is not a conquest) and then when they ‘fall in love’ with a really good man whom they are suddenly scared to lose because he treats her like gold thinking she’s a low number women, refuses to cough up her real number. Then down the road, he either treats her too nicely and she ditches his beta ass cold looking for the wild times she had in the past, or silently cheats on him because life gets boring and he doesn’t stack up to the row of other men she’s boffed in her day.
Can a ‘slut’ reform and become a good trustworthy partner? Probably, but why put yourself into that position in the first place, of losing someone because they would cherish your sexuality more than you cared to? At the end of the day, to each their own. I simply ask women not to cry and tell men they’re just insecure little babies who can’t handle a well worn woman and that her number shouldn’t count. It should, it does, deal with it.
I think this lady has pretty much cornered the final word on sluts;
http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/03/eye-candy-sugar-daddies-cougars-oh-my-nsfw-alyssa-royse/
Agree with you 99%. I don’t whine about the “double standard” but I do think men and women see sex a bit differently… i.e. men for the most part CAN have some casual sex without ruining their self esteem and feeling like crap about it and most women can’t. They’ll just cry by the phone when he doesn’t call them again.
Which is pretty pathetic, but I digress.
Women just aren’t men and that’s the issue here.
This isn’t to say there is anything wrong with men with a very low partner count. There isn’t. But I honestly don’t feel that men with a high partner count are automatically cads, assholes, or unable to commit. A lot of men sow some oats, get it out of their system, and then are ready for commitment.
I married such a man. We’ve been married for 11 years. I’ve never had any reason to believe he has or would cheat on me. I guess you could say I am foolish if you want. And I certainly wouldn’t “automatically” assume a man with a high previous partner count was trustworthy/able to commit, but character and integrity shows up in a lot of different ways. When someone shows consistent character and integrity, it’s just weird to assume they are a cheater. He’d also had a track record of monogamy before, and a period of no activity at all (where he’d gotten tired of the whole thing.) I think my instincts were good with him. He’s a good man. I don’t care about his number.
Would he have cared if my number was high? I’m not sure one way or the other. Maybe? Probably? It’s never come up because it was irrelevant… since I didn’t have a high number.
Am I bothered about that “double standard”? Not really. Of course I COULD have held out for a man with a low partner count. There is no reason i HAD to settle down with someone with a high count, but for me, he was the one.
Also, reading the comments, I am 100% with you on the no kids thing. Since there are 7 billion people on this planet, Mr. Thrope and i feel we can safely sit this one out. It allows us to have more freedom both with our time and finances to do the things we want and to build a stronger bond together. Every vacation is a kid-free vacation. All outings are grown-up outings. We never have to spend a single dinner out at Chuck E. Cheese, unless we’re just feeling silly and want to see a goofy show, eat some decent pizza, and play skee ball.